I don't understand why...
Because he doesn't want to lose his family.
so my wife and i have been in the process of fading for a few months now as per my original post here.
about a week ago, i was browsing some ex-jw facebook groups when i saw a post that linked to the crisis of conscience book.
i said "f@(k it" and hit share on it.. a few hours later, i get a long text letter from my mom (who was a fb friend of mine) telling me the typical "good luck finding friends in the world" and how we have "nothing in common anymore"; basically, it was a 'farewell' text.
I don't understand why...
Because he doesn't want to lose his family.
is everyone familiar with dr. hugh ross and his organization reasons to believe?
i have learned much from this ministry.. hugh ross is a trained scientist and pastor who specialises in marrying the bible with science (both of which are records of truth).
he has an msc and phd in astronomy and was a post-doctoral fellow with the california institute of technology.
is everyone familiar with dr. hugh ross and his organization reasons to believe?
i have learned much from this ministry.. hugh ross is a trained scientist and pastor who specialises in marrying the bible with science (both of which are records of truth).
he has an msc and phd in astronomy and was a post-doctoral fellow with the california institute of technology.
I haven't read any of his books, but I've heard him many times as a guest on a radio show I used to listen to. He comes across as disingenuous to me in that he pretends to be going where the evidence leads, however listening to him for just a few minutes shows that he does some impressive mental gymnastics to make sure the evidence leads to the conclusion he's already reached.
For someone pretending to be a sophisticated scientist, he falls back on some ridiculous arguments based on extremely questionable data and atrocious logic to the point that it's very difficult to believe he really thinks this way. I can't think of any specific examples, but it's on a par with someone who received a PhD in Biology saying, "Oh yeah? If we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys? Chessmate evolutionists!"
I've also spoken with Dr. "Fuz" Rana, who is a member of the RTB staff and the resident evolution-denier. He was talking on the radio show about a new finding regarding Neanterthals and Denisovans, and he just outright lied about the contents of the article he was quoting, which I had read.
just thought id let you all in on some info i found on northeasttruth.com.
that magical moment where the moon blocks out the sun!
but only just enough to perfectly cover the suns disc, whilst still allowing us to see the corona of light and other electromagnetic forces radiating from it.. this only happens because the moon diameter is exactly 1/400th the size of the suns and is positioned at exactly 1/400th of the distance between earth and the sun!so, when we see it from the surface of earth, we are in the only place this can ever be seen, at the only time it could ever happen.
What would be really monumental is if there was a piece of toast that looked JUST LIKE JESUS!!!1!
so my wife and i have been in the process of fading for a few months now as per my original post here.
about a week ago, i was browsing some ex-jw facebook groups when i saw a post that linked to the crisis of conscience book.
i said "f@(k it" and hit share on it.. a few hours later, i get a long text letter from my mom (who was a fb friend of mine) telling me the typical "good luck finding friends in the world" and how we have "nothing in common anymore"; basically, it was a 'farewell' text.
Come on, man! Posting on FB if you're fading is a rookie move!
But seriously, if you're a former elder you know how this all goes and don't need my advice, but I think saying, "I wont say I'm sorry nor lie about the facts of my situation" is a mistake. You don't owe them anything. If lying gets you out of being shunned by your family, then LIE LIE LIE, and then lie about lying. Follow that up with a good lie about lying about lying. Then lie... you get the picture.
What is the nature of the posts you've been making? Is it more than just this CoC "like"? Couldn't you just say it was a mis-click? Could you claim your FB account was hacked by evil apostates? If you need an alibi, I'll confess to hacking your account.
Honor--falling on your sword because you don't want to tell a lie, and facing severe repercussions that affect both you and your wife, as well as your families and any future children is an antiquated notion. This aint Camelot.
just thought id let you all in on some info i found on northeasttruth.com.
that magical moment where the moon blocks out the sun!
but only just enough to perfectly cover the suns disc, whilst still allowing us to see the corona of light and other electromagnetic forces radiating from it.. this only happens because the moon diameter is exactly 1/400th the size of the suns and is positioned at exactly 1/400th of the distance between earth and the sun!so, when we see it from the surface of earth, we are in the only place this can ever be seen, at the only time it could ever happen.
Yes, it is not amazing.
jehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.
there is another mode for how he exists.
now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.
prologos, we (myself included) very often talk about the universe without differentiating--even within our own minds--just what we mean by it. Often when we say universe, we mean the observable universe (technically, the part that's inside our light cone). Other times we're talking about a larger universe which our observable "world" is a part of. There are different ways of describing a larger "Multiverse," from parallel universes, ensemble universe, "branes," superspace, bubble universes, etc. The beginning of our observable universe, at a Big Bang, isn't necessarily the beginning of all existence. This allows for the space-time of our universe to have a beginning while allowing for time in part of a larger universe.
Two models showing our universe within a larger multiverse. Note, also, that these multiverses were not imagined to avoid the need for a god; they arise naturally from QM equations.
on the other subject:----the moon/earth system, the Sun are waltzing, rotating along synchronized, no fairies required, obviously.
This was my point, and it seems you agree. Just as there are no fairies required to explain the orbit of the moon, no god is required to explain any facet of the universe.
... at what radius in time did these pre-big bang conditions disappear?
What pre-big bang conditions are you talking about? There are too many different models to ask a blanket question or give a blanket answer. That said, if I had to take a guess, I'd say many models don't say conditions "disappeared into" anything; they simply transitioned from one phase to another. If we're talking about a theoretical higher-entropy state to the very low entropy state of our early universe, or a fluctuation in a quantum field, there's nothing to disappear.
... but if they did not disappear, that energy can still be a property of the void, and is making it's constant appearance into the space that opens up in the expanding universe. That the gist of what I read. or?
That's not my understanding. If anything, the universe would be said to be expanding into this empty space, not the other way around. More importantly, however we characterize this boundary, the cosmic background microwave radiation shows that conditions of our "local," or observable universe obtain at least to the edge of our light cone, and anything happening beyond that is impenetrable to us.
jehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.
there is another mode for how he exists.
now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.
... dark energy is an inherent property of space, and the added space of the expanding universe increases the energy content of the universe. This explains the accelerated expansion of the universe... that dark energy is thought to be a possible feature of the pre-beginning condition too. or?
Yes, thanks for the correction. It's been a while since I've read From Eternity to Here, so I'll have to look through it to see specifically what you're talking about, but my post demonstrates that I shouldn't comment on such dense topics when it's well past my bedtime. It's difficult to remember that the much-vaunted "conservation of energy" doesn't apply in an expanding universe (and even here I must simply accept what the experts say, as much of the physics is over my head).
However, I don't think dark energy "is thought to be a... feature of the pre-beginning condition," since it's a property of space-time, which didn't exist until the BB. You'll note that I left out the word "possible" from my quote of you, because I think it renders your claim too wishy-washy to be useful. Anything is possible. However, I'll grant that my objection is little more than a nit-pick because you're attempting to solve a problem that I don't think exists. If we're going to posit a creator, then you don't need to explain how it did anything (including what material it might have needed to work with); whatever the physicists come up with, we can always just add, "God used that... or caused that... or created that... or transformed that..."
Moon fairies as straw men?
It's not a straw man because I'm not presenting it as your position. It's a demonstration that appealing to the "possibility" of something doesn't gain you much--if anything at all.
jehovahs witnesses think that just the bible is proof that god exists but they are wrong.
there is another mode for how he exists.
now we all know many scientists who are creationists now weren’t creationists until they examined the evidence for themselves.
prologs I think you are grossly misrepresenting--or misinterpreting--what is in cosmology books.
you can not pick up a book on cosmology that does not come to terms with the fact that there are conditions that preceded the beginning of our universe,
I have read a few books on cosmology and never read anything that presented conditions preceding the beginning of the (classical) universe as "fact." There are plenty of mathematical models that allow for various conditions before the Big Bang, but none of them are called fact. At this point, all pre-Big-Bang cosmology is speculative.
and perhaps are still filling it with more [dark]energy.
What book says this? I've never read a cosmology or physics book that said new energy was coming into the universe. Energy in the universe is balanced, and no new energy is being added. If it were, it would be all over the news.
These conditions demand the existence of time, and the possibility of a creator at work.
These conditions, if they existed (and I think they likely did), would demand that time exist before the Big Bang, but you're trying to attach "the possibility of a creator" to "conditions demand," and that is incorrect. At most, one could say it's possible for a creator to have been at work, but that is true whatever the conditions--or even if there were no conditions before the Big Bang.
The Laws of Physics explain the orbits of the planets. It's also possible that Moon Fairies push the moon around its orbit while the planets follow Newtonian physics. "Possible" is not an impressive claim, especially when there's no reason to think it's the case.
my question, why would one immigrate to the west and refuse to adopt the western cultural?.
if you believe our way of life is so degenerated why bring your family to this place.. in a very close 5-4 vote, the city of irving ruled to back the texas state bill banning foreign.
law from the state.
The US flag is going to be replaced with the russian flag.
I mean... there's nothing on the books, and the government and people of the US would never allow it, but some people somewhere want it, so that means it's coming, right?
The Russian flag is coming, folks!